Baha’i Justice

Lorenzo wrote:
We could go on and on with this discussion but it all boils down to one basic question:
-Who is actively teaching Baha’u’llah?

Depends what you mean by “teaching”. If you mean that the hierarchy dictates the dogma and the laypeople accept without questioning, then you have a point. But in all the great religions, “teaching” involves discussion, debate and argument. The great religions have lasted for thousands of years precisely because there was no central authority controlling the dialogue (although the Vatican certainly gave it a good try!). In contrast, the hierarchy of the Baha’i Faith seeks to create “unity” by stifling diversity. In the Ruhi books, they’ve even gone so far as to forbid individual interpretation. Until the Baha’i Faith can break free of this inflexible dogma, it’s unlikely to find a place alongside the great religions. Marcello

I am a BUPC and we were the ones to blame for the sans-Guardians raising such a fuss. We have websites published that promote the Guardianship through the only ones in the Will & Teatament who are given this priviledge, namely – the Aghsan. The Aghsan are the male descendants of Baha’u’llah and are the only ones who are allowed to fill this position. Abdu’l-Baha over and over again proclaimed Mason Remey to be his “Aghsan” his son. Abdu’l-Baha did not speak English, and when in the multitude of letters Abdu’l-Baha wrote to Mason he always addressed them with “My dear Son” which was written by Abdu’l-Baha as “My dear Aghsan” This is what Abdu’l-Baha wrote. Funny how people always forget about that. Mason Remey deposited copies of his diaries all over the world, and in Mason’s diaries he describes his last meeting with Abdu’l-Baha before his passing at the sea of Tiberias in the Holy Land. Here he descibes how Abdu’l-Baha proclaimed outright “I have adopted you as my son.” In the Diaries of Juliet Thompson Abdu’l-Baha is quoted in a letter saying “You are my real son. I have an idea for you and hope that it will come to pass.” An adopted son has all the right and priveledges of a natual son. A hereditery lineage includes adopted children and this is and will continue to be the “Straight Path” that we are admonished in the writings to follow. The Great-Grandson of Abdu’l-Baha through Mason Remey is alive and teaching and fighting these enemies of the Cause of which is the “Kingdom of God on Earth” How can you have a “Kingdom” without a King? The King is the Guardian who sits at the head of the ture Universal House of Justice but only has a vote of one in the decision making process and has no veto power. This is Justice. Justice in not any one man making all the decisions and interpretations, this is tyranny. The Kingship is that which is passed down from Baha’u’llah as He Himself proclaims

“THE Most Great Law is come, and the Ancient Beauty ruleth upon the throne of David. Thus hath My Pen spoken that which the histories of bygone ages have related.”

(Baha’u’llah, The Proclamation of Baha’u’llah, p. 89)

The Histories of bygone ages prove that Baha’u’llah is indeed a direct throne line descendant of David and we have compiled the Genealogy that now even the Sans-Guardian admit to using in their teaching efforts becasuse nothing elses is as authoritative. These facts, just like the prophecies Baha’u’llah Himself fulfills, cannot be denied. To any truly discerning individual, this is the essence of discovery and truth at it is confirmed and related in the pages of documented history. This is why the Guardianship cannot and will not ever come to an end, because it is the fulfillment of the prophecies for Baha’u’llah as the Great descendant of David who appears and bring the “Kingdom of God” on earth. Victor

We could go on and on with this discussion but it all boils down to one basic question:

-Who is actively teaching Baha’u’llah?

As a student of Baha’i organizations, as one who accept Baha’u’llah’s message for humanity as the healing medicine for a sick world, I asked myself which of these Baha’i organizations is teaching Baha’u’llah?

It is evident that The Orthodox Baha’is are concerned only with self glorification with ample evidence being their own website where 95% of their articles are why they’re right and everybody is else is wrong. Their own Hands of the Cause and general members also prove this point.

The Reform Bahais are also only concerned with self glorification, specifically the glorification of Fredrick as their Big Cheese.

As for the Baha’is Loyal to the IV Guardian, their Guardian Soghomonian has a policy against teaching their Faith.

The Baha’i World Faith is the only Baha’i community that teaches Baha’u’llah, simple as that.

In my humble opinion all Orthodox and CB organizations exist for one reason and one reason only: to destroy the Baha’i World Faith.
To this bears witness their ‘ridvan messages’, their ‘nawruz messages’, their ‘hands’ and their general membership. Lorenzo

Susan wrote:
The only thing that was said about the Reform Baha’i Faith was the doubts expressed as to whether there really was such an organization apart from Fred himself. Fred has been linked to a number of websites claiming to represent Baha’i sects which in fact no longer exist.

Let me clarify the above the statement. It is in reference to Fred’s accusation that his so-called Reformed Baha’i was slandered in the recent court cases. The judge in the Court of Appeals which Fred gave us the MP3 link was not referring to Fred’s organization (if indeed there is one) but to whether or not the Remeyites who are bound by this court injunction could *theoretically* call themselves Reformed Baha’is. Susan

The only thing that was said about the Reform Baha’i Faith was the doubts expressed as to whether there really was such an organization apart from Fred himself. Fred has been linked to a number of websites claiming to represent Baha’i sects which in fact no longer exist. Susan

Marcello wrote:
I was once very attracted to the “mainstream” Baha’i Faith, and even attended the local Baha’i center fairly regularly. But the more I learned about the authoritarian structure of the faith, the more disillusioned I became. This lawsuit only confirms to me that something has gone very wrong with the hierarchy of the Baha’i faith. The inspiring message of Baha’u’llah is now subservient to the political dogmatism of a misguided bureaucracy. What a shame.

Unfortunately, I believe you’re right about the “political dogmatism of a misguided bureaucracy.” The good news is that Abdu’l-Baha’s supposed will and testament of 1921 is a fraudulent document, independently judged as such with the scientific methods of forensic science in 1930. Dr. C. Ainsworth Mitchell’s original Report is deposited with the Library of Congress.
Ruth White and Ahamad Sohrab, early reform Bahais during the 1930s and ’40s, wrote several books that fully discuss what went wrong, subverting the universality of Baha’u’llah’s Teachings into a corrupt money and power seeking organization. Their works are also available on the Reform Bahai Faith website.
The sad thing is that most Baha’is have been brainwashed and deceived into believe Shoghi Effendi was appointed by Abdu’l-Baha as a “guardian” and thereby taught not to think and investigate for themselves. As Professor Juan Cole once said, “It’s a perfect racket.”
We must despair, though. God has preserved the knowledge, down through the decades, about what Abdu’l-Baha actually taught, as the Center of the Covenant. His vision is a free and open Bahai Cause, which is still alive, and growing.
Bahai regards, Reform Bahai Faith Frederick.

I was once very attracted to the “mainstream” Baha’i Faith, and even attended the local Baha’i center fairly regularly. But the more I learned about the authoritarian structure of the faith, the more disillusioned I became. This lawsuit only confirms to me that something has gone very wrong with the hierarchy of the Baha’i faith. The inspiring message of Baha’u’llah is now subservient to the political dogmatism of a misguided bureaucracy. What a shame. Marcello

Isn’t the heart of the matter this.
God made a promise to Abraham that His word would be renewed and He would not abandon mankind.

God made a promise to Baha’u’llah. That “this is the day that would not be followed by night”.

Abdul Baha designed the means by which that promise would be fulfilled. The Guardianship being the Promise of God’s ultimate protection of His Word for all mankind. This Promise is to last for 1000 years.

No where in the writings of Abdul Baha or Shogi Effendi were there provisions for an elected body to replace the Guardianship. No where!

The truth is out there. Thanks for reading and I wish you all well.

I want to thank the Chicago Tribune for publishing this story. Janet

Janice wrote:
According to Abdu’l-Baha “religion must be the cause of unity, harmony and agreement among mankind. If it be the cause of discord and hostility, if it leads to sparation and conflict, the absence of religion would be preferable in the world.”

Which is precisely why the fraudulent will and testament of 1921, purported to be Abdu’l-Baha’s, has produced so much suffering and misery as that of husbands and wives required to shun one another over religious “truth” and similar appalling abominations within the Wilmette Baha’i denomination, the vast majority of whom have been deceived into believing it’s a legitimate document.

Dr. C. Ainsworth Mitchell, chief document expert at the British Museum, judged it a fraud in 1930, yet it’s essentially the fraudulent document which is a the core of why the Wilmette Baha’is are suing and seeking to destroy other Bahai denominations. Frederick

Orthodox Baha’is are not starting a new religion. They are only upholding the tenets of the religion revealed by Baha’u’llah. According to Abdu’l-Baha, “As to the most great characteristic of the revelation of Baha’u-llah–a specific teaching not given by any of the Prophets of the past–it is the ordination and appointment of the Center of the Covenant. By this appointment and provision He has safeguarded and protected the religion of God against differences and schisms, making it impossible for any one to create a new sect or faction of belief. To insure unity and agreement He has entered into a Covenant with all the people of the world including the Interpreter and Explainer of His teachings so that no one may interpret or explain the religion of God according to his own view or opinion and thus create a sect founded upon his individual understanding of the divine words.”
The Haifa Baha’i group has deviated from the principles of the faith and created their own Administration minus the Interpreter (Guardian). The Orthodox Baha’is choose to follow the lineal descendents, which brings them to the present Guardian, Joel Bray Marangella. The Orthodox did not stray, it is the others that have created new sects and call themselves Baha’i. Janice