Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 7th, 2009

“if it is true that Mason was, in fact, the adopted Aghsan son of ‘Abdu’l-Baha, and if that fact were to be generally accepted, then I should not be able to refuse being his only possible successor…. The fact will always remain that if the Baha’i Faith must have a Guardian to progress, then only Mason Remey could have fulfilled that role, and Mason Remey intended me as his successor…”

And yes, it was true. Mason was the only Aghsan who qualified to be the Guardian and this was in the Plan from the beginning. None of the other claimants to the Guardianship after Mason ever claimed to be Aghsan, and thus they are immediately eliminated from consideration. Only one person fulfilled this position. This was Pepe. He asserts this in his letter that Mason had intended for him to be his successor. Pepe was Mason’s only son. Pepe acknowledged his Guardianship in other letters and referred to himself as a “do-nothing” Guardian in occultation. There are only two criteria. he must be an Aghsan (son) and be appointed. Anything added to this is outside the criteria the W&T delineates. This is the “Straight Path” that is tread by the faithful. The “faithful” are those who do not rebel against the designated lineage and try to establish added or false criteria. When Pepe passed on in 1994 the mantle of Guardianship passed from Pepe to Pepe’s adopted son, Neal Chase ben Joseph Aghsan bringing the natural line of David and Baha’u’llah grafted back into the tree. It doesn’t make any difference what anyone says. The fact that Pepe was the only son of Mason makes him the only one who can be Mason’s successor. To go with any other plan or design or path or theology is going against the designated Aghsan lineage which is the Lineage of David that is promised in the Book of Psalms to last for as long as their is life on this planet. There have always been those who have continually attacked and denied the Throne of David, but the Throne continues to this day despite them. If the people do not want the Promised Everlasting Covenant then that is no skin off my nose. I believe everyone can believe whatever they want. But what I usually end up believing is that which is true. That which is in conformity to the revealed writings and the fact that the Guardianship of the House of Justice is confined to the Aghsan lineage of Baha’u’llah in the Will & Testament. If the Guardianship continued after the death of Shoghi Effendi, who else could have fulfilled this role? Mason was the only one for the fact that he was Aghsan. Mason might have appointed others, but Mason had only one son, Pepe. Its really easy if you think about it. If people could accept the Straight Path this would be a very powerful point of unity. But people are silly. They are suspicious, jealous, envious, and so the attacks and rejection of the Aghsan lineage and the Throne of David continue. C’est la vie
Victor

Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 7th, 2009

Victor wrote:
How do you explain the above quoted letter?

Where on earth does that letter show that Pepe was Guardian???? Quinn

Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 7th, 2009

How do you explain the above quoted letter?
Victor

Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 7th, 2009

Doris, I am aware of the letter Susan talks about. But you are essentially correct, Pepe never became a Bahaì, much less the Guardian of the Bahaì Faith.

Perhaps Victor is unaware of other letters Pepe sent out bitterly complaining that Leland Jensen was trying to force a station upon him that he did not want.

The idea of Pepe as Guardian came from nowhere but the imaginings of Jensen and, later, Chase.

Joel Bray Marangella at least had a brief claim before Remey withdrew the appointment. Chase has nothing. Quinn

Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 6th, 2009

Dear Doris, Those are good points, but again, to add any other criteria other than that he must be a son and be appointed is going outside the framework of the Will & Testament. Pepe was very much in support of the BUPC and acknowledged this in numerous letters some of which both my wife and I received. Here is an excerpt from one:

“Mason was confident that in time the masses of Believers would come to the conclusion that they needed and wanted a Guardian. Had they done so during his lifetime, I should not have objected to being his successor. Mason would have delighted in (the) conclusion regarding the Afnan and Aghsan branches and if it is true that Mason was, in fact, the adopted Aghsan son of ‘Abdu’l-Baha, and if that fact were to be generally accepted, then I should not be able to refuse being his only possible successor…. The fact will always remain that if the Baha’i Faith must have a Guardian to progress, then only Mason Remey could have fulfilled that role, and Mason Remey intended me as his successor…” (Pepe, 25 July 1991, Personal names omitted for privacy)

Sorry for the contradiction to your statements, but these are letters that we have and we had correspondence with him on and many more until his passing in 1994. I’m sorry you have been misinformed. You can read more of these as well as excerpts from Mason’s diaries here

http://bupc.org/test-of-god.html
Victor

Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 6th, 2009

The reporter Manya A. Brachear mentions an appalling fact, entirely glossed over by every Wilmette Baha’i poster to this thread: “Goldberg’s wife was encouraged to divorce her husband.”

What Ms. Brachear doesn’t report is that Wilmette Baha’is who refuse to “shun” their spouse are themselves in turn shunned from the denomination.

It’s difficult to think of a more spiritually sick practice than this one that the fraudulent will and testament has produced, carefully hidden from new Baha’is and the general American public. Frederick

Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 6th, 2009

Long suppressed by Bahais of other denominations,
Reform Bahais have returned to, and renewed,
Abdu’l-Baha’s authentic 1912 Covenant.

Of the several Bahai denominations, the Reform Bahai Faith is the only denomination that follows Abdu’l-Baha’is authentic Covenant, and not what many have believed is the fraudulent will and testament of 1921.

Frederick

Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 6th, 2009

Susan wrote:

Obviously we don’t have a copyright over the ‘words’ of our religion but our religious organization does own certain trademarks.

Which trademarks are you referring to? Certainly no religious organization can own words like “Islam”, “Christianity”, “Baha’i”etc as trademarks. The US court’s decision over 40 years ago was unjust and needs to be reversed. James

Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 6th, 2009

Victor Woods wrote:
But Pepe acknowledged his Guardianship and the Aghsan lineage as well as believing in Baha’u’llah, yet these are not requirements that need to be fulfilled according to the Covenant. The only two criteria that is given is #1 he is a son (Aghsan) and #2 he was appointed by the previous Guardian.

Pepe did not acknowledge anything at all. That is an absolute 100% falsehood.. To the end of his days Pepe steadfastly refused to join the Baha’i Faith let alone take up any office. Letters from Pepe himslef attest to his, including one he sent to the mainstream Baha’is informing them that his name was being used without his permission by Leland Jensen among others despite the fact that he had protested to Jensen about it and asked him to desist.

You either do not know what you are talking about, or you are deliberately lying about Pepe. HE WAS NEVER APPOINTED GUARDIAN BY REMEY AND HE HIMSELF IS ON RECORD AS SAYING HE WAS NOT.

Or are you accusing HIM of lying? Doris

Re: Chicago Tribune Article

August 6th, 2009

Victor Woods wrote:
Mason was the Aghsan head of the House of Justice and later Mason adopted a son whose name was Pepe and Pepe adopted Neal Chase who is a blood-line descendant of David and collateral descendant of Baha’u’llah.

Complete hogwash. Firstly – Mason Remey adopted Pepe who NEVER became a Baha’i, and who NEVER held any Baha’i office at all, and who was NEVER appointed to any office by Mason Remey, least of all guardian. Pepe was not only NOT guardian he wasn’t even a follower of Baha’u’llah!

Secondly – being a son does not automatically carry with it the office of guardianship anyway!!

Neal Chase is no more the guardian of the Baha’i Faith than donald duck is. Doris